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#1 Beany

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 01:14 AM

What exactly is a BASS ENGINE???

how does it work with or instead of a sub etc?

I am trying to nut out how to get bass into my very limited space in the twin cab hilux 4x4. Would these help?

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 01:53 AM

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 02:02 AM

its best to use the bass engine with a subwoofer.

great fun however try to reduce rattles that it causes.

#4 Beany

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 10:46 AM

thanks matt but i was after the type of bass engine jas is on about.

You know they look like the magnet only off a sub!

I really wanna what they actual DO??? what is a bass engines purpose?

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:04 AM

[url="http://www.baudline.com/~erik/bass/tactile_report.html"]http://www.baudline.com/~erik/bass/tactile_report.html[/url]

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Alpine SWS-BE45 BASS ENGINE

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Aura AST-2B-4 (pro)

alpine rebadged the aura big bass shaker


you can sometimes find them in cashconverters or i know garys car radio preston has a pair.

aura made a class d car amp specially for there shakers aswell

even though people dont usually recommend these...with a small sub like an 8inch and place these on the bottom of you car seats the experience is extremely enjoyable.

good luck

#6 Beany

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:11 AM

thanks Jas i know that gary's car radio too.

But can you explain what it is doing? is there sound or just movment or what??


i see its really called a transducer! where have i heard taht before? hmmm

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:21 AM

these things do unfotunately make some noise. This is why you NEED a good 8inch sub to mask the noise they make in operation.

a good solid mounting on the bottom of the seats make a huge difference.

how do they work...they move in time with the music and add to the tactile experience of the "bass hit".

when setup properly they are EXTREMELY fun :-)

2x100watt rms amp looks like the right size to drive these units.

just need to use a bandpass (20hzto50hz sounds like a good start) to get them to work best. Have to play around with them

good luck

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:31 AM

sounds like if i'm going to get at least one 8" in the cabin anyway - i may get a pair of these under the seats and keep my old 6 ch amp to run the splits and the rest leave the rears as fill only?

sweet

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 12:05 PM

They shake..
they allso suck very badly in my opinion..
i have 3-4 around the house somewhere...
the novelty wore off...

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 02:24 PM

They have a crank with a lobe inside that spins and as its out of balance when it spins very fast it vibrates real bad.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 06:07 PM

they sound pretty interesting, but i don't understand either, can they still be used to play all the lower sub frequencies? Or are they like the rumble pack on a game controller that helps to increase the FEEL of the music?
And are they vented? (like does air come out)

I also remember seeing a sub that was actually a FAN that made sound, anyone heard of these? i think it was called a cyclone or somthing

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 08:44 PM

KAL SPL THANKS HEAPS!!!!

thats what i really wanted to know. I have had a look and that is not what i'm after.

Mack i think u have a hit it on the head its like a rumble pack!

I wanted to find and easy and smaller option for bass in a small area


Thanks for everyones help tho!

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 09:30 PM

Sounds good to me too. Since this is also the first time that I hear about the so called "bass engines" from this forum, it real triggers my imagination and I, therefore, wanted to dig further into it to see what's going on behind the secret shakers. Some people call it shakers; others call it interactors, vibrators, brain shakers, resonators or more symbolically buttkickers. Iíd like to call it asskickers :rocket: . But technically, itís known as tactile transducers.

If you want to know more about it, take a look at this URL.

Tactile Transducer FAQ:
http://www.baudline....actile_faq.html

And if you really want to create one for yourself, DIY, itís so easy:
http://www.hometheat..._2/tactile.html

#14 Beany

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 12:04 AM

Yeah i see it is Tran

but dude - if i'm going thru the bush over huge dips n mud and logs. Or flying across a paddock or even in traffic. While i have my music banging along - do i really need a rumble under my bum????

I've thought about it and decided no - no i dont need to havea massage at the same time!

thanks again everyone

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 01:18 AM

the pro version are a lot lot lot better than the standard bass shakers

what the idea is that if you dont have large amounts of space and power to get the tactile sensation of a big powerful woofer you incorperate one or two of these. They are a lot better than these rumble packs that some are talking about ..the "rumble packs" just ratttle and make lots of aweful noise and are a complete waste of money and time.

i think most people have experienced the standard aura bass actuators. They are terrible. Yes the pros are far superior.

still you are ALWAYS better off with a great high quality midbass in the doors and a large throw (high xmax 24mm one way or better) 8or 10inch sub.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 01:34 AM

I have one of those in the Aura backpack cushion, i toyed with the idea of buying one or two and putting them under my seats just for kicks (they sell em at jaycar for $5 each) but i remember that with the cushion you get a headache after a bit and the novelty wears off.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 11:38 AM

I reckon it'd definately make you sick and would be annoying.

I mean it's just like rumble packs in computer peripherals - they're cool when you get them aand then the novelty wears off very quickly

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 01:54 PM

KAL SPL THANKS HEAPS!!!!

thats what i really wanted to know. I have had a look and that is not what i'm after.

Mack i think u have a hit it on the head its like a rumble pack!  

I wanted to find and easy and smaller option for bass in a small area


Thanks for everyones help tho!

Glad I could be of service. :D

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 08:46 PM

i used to use alpine's bass engines in my old MR2 which was very limited in space for subs (i still had a single 10" sub though). they added a useful physical rumble to the subbass which the sub couldn't reproduce. mine were also secured to the chassis floor which is probably not as good as directly to the seat frame (which wasn't practical in my car unfortunately).

i ran mine off 2 channels of my 4-channel alpine V12 amp with over 40WRMS on tap, and that was adequate.

probably not great value, although now they'd be dirt cheap i presume as they have long being discontinued and may in fact be secondhand (the ones you're looking at). i think they retailed for ~$300 new.

like most stereo components, install them properly (securely mounted, adequate power, and appropriate LP setting on amp) and they'll be a good addition to a system featuring only a small sub.

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